Sunday, November 13, 2005

Comments

Hello Everyone,

Firstly I'd like to thank everyone for their comments.... good and bad. Even the trolls deserve a mention, because they took the trouble to stand up for what it was they believed in.

Albeit the wrong thing.

Let me place my position on the matter very clearly.

1. I started this blog only to inform the public about what happened to the both of us. Take it with a pinch of salt if you must, but to tell you the truth, I'm not doing it for the public support.... It is my right and a matter of principle that all of you are informed as to what happened to us so you can make an intelligent decision about the potential dangers out there.

2. I have had a lot of comments saying my story is not "clear enough" or "believable". You are more than welcomed to doubt the veracity of the claims, it is your right to do so and I applaud it. However please read the story before you shoot off. I have people asking all sorts of questions which would be answered if they so much had read the blog properly. It's all there for you to see, please don't clog up the comment box.

I just have one thing to say to those of you who are being a bit on the mean side - I think personally it is not very nice as fellow Malaysians to be so open to criticising the victim. We complain about the police not being sympathetic and how Malaysians in general are not helpful enough. It somehow reflects poorly the fact that someone fights so hard to tell their story, and then there are the bullies who come on the page to harass and to pressure the individuals in question. One day you may find yourself in a situation where you're assaulted or in an accident and instead of receiving understanding you are treated with scorn. Personally, your ill comments do not affect nor reflect on me because for every one troll there are ten other friends and supporters who inspire me with their warmth.

3. If I was lying about this through and through and inventing this stuff, I guess I'm not only very brave but stupid to go to the police, lie under oath, lie to court one day, and sod my whole future off. If any of you can even suggest that I guess it's something you're capable of - not me. I don't have the b@lls. Think about the potential implications before you suggest that I'm lying and getting my friends to lie as witnesses. If I can get someone to lie to the police about something he or she is not a friend, she's a fool. If I'm lying to the cops I'm a bigger idiot.

4. I am not in any way saying "bouncers are bad people". I so happened to have been bashed up by a few rotten eggs and told my story. And there are other people who have been bashed up and murdered by bouncers. This has to STOP.

So to people like elleashley, don't twist and turn this cause. I have friends who are bouncers too and they are outraged by this because they would never do such things to others. And even they want things to change for the better in this country, security personnel need better training. That's another reason why I'm trying to talk about it - to highlight this issue and get the public to pressure the authorities to reform the rules before we hire them. Not everyone who can fit into a black coat deserves to be a bouncer.

It seems odd that some are aspiring to bring the country backward into the medieval days of "bash thy enemy at will". Security personnel have to be trained to handle situations and perhaps eject clients if need be. Not take revenge, no matter how drunk and stupid and irritating the person may be. We are a civilisation - behave like we're in one, and not a disorganised circus.

5. I have nothing against Zouk per se either. I am pretty darn upset with the way they have treated us and yes, they will have to pay for their mistakes. They've done a bad, bad, bad, job handling my case. However I have never called for the place to shut down or for even a boycott. My blog is here to tell you what happened to me, and what you as the customer or the authorities decide to do from then on is entirely in your hands.

Take care and peace to all.

Cheers.
///ju-lee


Those who do not kill me only make me stronger.
-Nietzche

145 Comments:

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13 November, 2005 14:14  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To James & Ju-Lee, my deepest of sympathies goes out to the both of you. To have gone through all that you have and to start up this blog and the petition must have been absolutely traumatising to the both of you.

I speak on behalf of my mind and before I proceed I wish to state my neutrality in this matter. I stand on no sides...

Ju-Lee, I do not doubt what has happened to you and James. Indeed, the bouncers most probably did hit you and your partner during that night and it was probably wrong of them to have exercised such force onto a lady and an unwell man.

But hear me out, let's all have open minds and evaluate this situation once again. Put yourself into the bouncer's shoes, now, how would you have reacted in his situation. Your job was to keep the place ie. Zouk safe and "clean". No doubt you guyz said that there were no hanky-panky going on in the toilet, but to the bouncer, he was informed otherwise and to have come in to the toilet seeing the doors locked to the cubicle and a woman's voice in it, wuld u not have thought of it to?

Quite frankly, I sure many would agree. And now, at this point, with the you as the bouncer standing at the door, what would you have done? You ass is on the line. It is your job and responsibilty to get whoever's in the cubicle out ASAP. What would you have done? Just stand there and try to convince the couple to come out?

What would you have done? What's the best way to go about doing it? You tell me....

Again, there's always two sides to a story. I am not here to mock your story for I believe that you were indeed handled by the bouncers of Zouk KL. But all I'm trying to convey here is that sometimes, we become too bias in a conflict. The bouncers did what they thought was right at that time.

Alas, at the end of the day, everyone does things for the good of things but in the end, both parties usually are at a lost.

That's my 2-cents worth, I wish to once again convey my deepest feelings towards J-L and James but to the readers of this blog I ask that we do not pass judgement against anyone in this conflict just yet. James & J-L have spoken, now let us hear from Zouk KL. At the end of the day, IMHO it was just a big misunderstanding which went totally wrong. Both parties did what they each thought was the best at that moment and noone is ultimately wrong or right.

Malaysians... clubbing is fun. Let's not learn to hate something so many of us once loved.

13 November, 2005 14:52  
Blogger kimfluttersby said...

this is really tough. hope you can find justice...

13 November, 2005 14:54  
Anonymous worldangel said...

Good luck...it really saddens me to read about this. And it is even more disappointing to read about Malaysian attitude towards this incident. I think the club should be held responsible together with the bouncers, because after all they are the one who hired them.

And to those who do not believe her story, I guess it is up to you all. there is no need to flame her just because of your disbelief. Just give her the benefit of the doubt, k?

And to those who think that we should only use BM just because we are in Malaysia, please go back to your well and continue to dwell there until the end of your life.

13 November, 2005 15:05  
Anonymous Desmond said...

sharing your experience to the benefit of others is great...

but what was it they did?
that's my problem, i can't seem to locate the 'what they did to you' part.

13 November, 2005 15:22  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

owh, now i know... from the comment above.

to this, all i can say is that bouncers are put up for a reason, and i believe they did what they were supposed to... maybe a little unprofessionally (bad mood?).

there are such things as house rules after all.

13 November, 2005 15:26  
Anonymous worldangel said...

to anonymous above:

but surely they should adhere to some rules? Even if they are in a bad mood, they should not beat up someone so seriously that it causes Ju-Lee's bf to suffer from internal injuries, bruises, etc?

There is such thing called professionalism. This incident showed that these bouncers have none of that at all. They are supposed to be in charge of the club's security, instead they have caused many to doubt if it is really secure to be in Zouk after all.

13 November, 2005 15:29  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fat bitch///

13 November, 2005 15:55  
Blogger Friend from Texas said...

I don't understand why folks gotta come in here and defend the bouncers.

Look, I'm sure you get a hard on from knowing some bouncers and hangin with them, and feeling all so self-important. So why don't the lot of you go fuck off and start your own blog about how you like bending over and taking it up the behind from your bouncer friends.

But don't expect others to keep quiet about it when they get shafted by these lowlife thugs.

As for the anonymous moron who keeps defending the cops insistence on receiving the report in BM, consider this:

KL is a tourist attraction. You have thousands of foreigners from all over the world visiting this city alone, not to mention other parts of the country. You would think the asshats in blue would have a decent understanding of the English language that is sufficient enough to file a basic police report.

Say some foreigner who can't speak BM stumbles across some terrorist plot to blow up some public place in KL. He goes off to the police to inform them of this piece of information he has, so that the police may spring into action and save lives. What do you think is going to happen if the cops haven't a clue what this foreigner is mumbling about in English? Sure, this scenario is an exaggeration...but can you see how silly, and detrimental, it is for the cops to not understand English? Especially one whose job is to take reports or answer calls?

Village idiots like yourself who put silly notions like nationalism ahead of practicality and sensibility are truly a liability to this beautiful country.

13 November, 2005 16:43  
Anonymous alex said...

WHAT TO DO, zouk msia whats :( come zouk sg. police here muchs better :( muchs safer :( muchs happening, no drugs. yeah okay but althought the smoking shit is stupid over here. NO SMOKING IN COFFEESHOPS. NO SMOKING AT BUS STOPS. NO SMOKING AT COMMUNITY CENTERS. NO SMOKING, HOLY FUCK THE GOVERNMENT LOL, hope they not reading this.

13 November, 2005 17:02  
Anonymous edmund said...

cannot smoke in pubs and discos soon too :( fuck the bouncers! fat asswipes, cant get a bitch.

13 November, 2005 17:07  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why go to Zouk in the first place? Go to church, more blessings, no crying, no cheap entertainment, only life long peace.

13 November, 2005 17:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

sad to hear that...hope James recover soon.....Cioazz

13 November, 2005 17:19  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So your bf is dying with his tongue sticking out in the cubicle but somehow manage to sms you, open up the door for you, and instead of helping him out of the cubicle to an open area to get help, both of you decided to stay in so that no one can come in to help????

Unbelievable!!

13 November, 2005 19:42  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Urmm..For your information,the bouncer who allegedly beat you up has resume working in zouk.He was suspended for two days.According to the bouncer who is close to some people i know,said that the case has been settled.You have been paid RM25k.And that you were making out.Kudos!

13 November, 2005 19:47  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

fuck the malaysian police! hope everything turns out well for you guys

13 November, 2005 20:09  
Anonymous anonymous said...

what? 25k? making out. hmm, ok i get it.

13 November, 2005 20:31  
Anonymous jerm said...

i've been reading a large section of the comments on this blog and i find it despicable that people still have the tenacity to come out and say 'oh, you shouldn't have gone out in the first place ...', 'you shouldn't have locked the door ...' and the whatnot. honestly; if she KNEW that her fiance and herself were to be beaten up that night - do you think they'd have gone out? if she KNEW that by locking the door, it'd get her fiance and herself into a mess of a beating - do you think she'd have locked the door?

i think not.

the thing is this - we're human. if we knew the mistakes that we were to make, we would not have made them - thus making us entirely psychics (or whatever) and voiding ourselves of all negative situations such as this one. but no, we're not psychics (or whatever). the both of them made the mistake of going out that night and have suffered the consequences. i'm sure they don't need to be reminded that they shouldn't have gone out that night because - i'm quite sure again - that they already KNOW.

thus is the malaysian quintessence that ensures nothing gets solved - the blame game. everyone's too busy playing the blame game, trying to put the fault on someone that nothing gets done. who knows, could she have embellished/overexaggerated the story by alot? could they have actually been making out? i feel there's a chance that it may have happened, but i feel these questions are secondary to what has happened - that a man and woman were both beaten to pulp by people who were entrusted with their safety. i feel that people should realize THAT before launching into a holier-than-thou tirade of 'you shouldn't have been there in the first place ...' bullshit.

what i have just said goes double for circumstances like rape and the whatnot. if we just stopped playing the blame game and just tried (for once) to understand the circumstance the victim has gone through, maybe - just maybe - things may change for the better.



all the best to the both of you, Ju-lee.

13 November, 2005 20:34  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

well you shouldnt have gone there in the first place! its safer in church.. no bouncers! no drunk bums. Make wise decisions in life.

13 November, 2005 21:09  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Ju-Lee. I just wanted to say that what you are doing is indeed the best and right thing to do. I was told about this incident by a friend and I do not know the entire details and I also do not know if you have considered this, but I would strongly encourage you to go to a lawyer and press charges. From what I have heard from friends, Zouk has been completely unprofessional about the issue. I'm sure your James has medical records/doctor's notes that detail his health issues. I would encourage you to go ahead and do this. This issue has happened to many before. No one simply has had the balls to come up and fight it like you do. Kudos to you! Keep up the good work and make sure you nail those bastards who dont give a damn for a human life. People like that should be put in public and shot down.

13 November, 2005 21:41  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Heya Ju-Lee, I'm sorry to have heard this. Dont give up what you're doing now. People can say whatever they want to say but YOU KNOW what happened to you. People will say anything they wanna say because thats human nature. They will never understand what you have gone through for two simple reasons really. One is because they were not there to witness the horrific incident and two because some people really have nothing else to do than to add on to people's misery. Its quite sad. But, on behalf of those who actually have a HEART and can think in the right mind, I would strongly encourage you to keep up the fight and make sure those bastards get what they deserve. NO one deserves to be treated like this no matter what. For those of us who CHOOSE to remain open minded, keep up the fight. You have our full moral support.

13 November, 2005 21:48  
Blogger Slutz said...

Well, thats the last time I ever go to Zouk again. Maybe we should all plan a public boycott and never go to Zouk again until they fire those motherfuckers who did this? Or at least until Zouk realises that sticking their heads up their asses isnt going to improve their public image now. I'm not going to Zouk anymore. There are other much more rocking clubs in town anyways.

13 November, 2005 21:51  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I totally *love* the internet. It's only here which people can find stupid excuses to intentionally hurt those who are already in pain, and remain anonymous so that their actions wont catch up to them.

What are you, a mature adult or a kindy kid with a computer?

Stop trolling. This couple has suffered enough already.

13 November, 2005 21:55  
Anonymous Shayna Lewis said...

OMG. Please people! Get a fucking life! You guys have the nerve to come here and critisize. If you dont like what Ju-Lee is doing, then GO TO ANOTHER SITE where you can stick your heads in the sand and pretend that nothing bad ever happens in this world. Dont come to a site that contains REALITY and expect it to be all sweet and nice like the stupid little worlds you live in. Grow the fuck UP!

13 November, 2005 21:55  
Anonymous elle said...

hey.. im so sorry to hear abt what happened during ur night out. it is indeed disappointing and sad at the same time to know how the authorities handle such cases. it just proves how 'ulu' they are and u have my support all the way! u know how they wanna keep up the image of zouk eh?? so i guess its of no surprise for them to have turn the story arnd.

and to the others who are not buying her side of the story, then just keep it low. she has justified her point and i think that us being malaysians, should feel disappointed and look for a hole to hide instead.

all the best!

13 November, 2005 22:47  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I can't pretend to say i understand what you went through and how frustrated you must feel right now. However, in order for me to understand what happened that night, i guess i just need to hear what the bouncers have to say. Were they idiots and big bullies? They were. Did you aggravate them? From your story, you did. Quote: "I asked him what right did he have to touch customers like that? I demanded his name so I could speak to the manager about it. I certainly was not going to take pushed around and more so, having my sick fiancee pushed around over this." Hey, under normal circumstances without a sick person to care for, please complain and stick to your principles all you want, but if you could have swallowed abit of pride, practiced abit of patience, things might have turned out differently. Good luck with your lawsuit, that is if it sees the light of day.

13 November, 2005 23:20  
Anonymous Mowkob said...

I left a comment earlier in an earlier posting but i totally agree with the 2nd 'anonymous' posting above, in so far that there is always 2 sides to every story. I am not even going to delve into

1. the bouncers;
2. the legal aspects; and
3. who's right/wrong.

So to those who ask why then am i here, because i chose to read this blog by choice and i have the time to do so.

'Nuetrality' is a beautiful word, and one that all of us should get aquainted with.

I mentioned earlier that i don't the full details and i still don't. I firmly believe in seeing to believe.

I am not here to state an opinion, and i am not going to pass judgment, but i have realized that the grapevine is a dangerous place for the naive i am afraid.

People don't jump the gun. Jezuz, the way people jump left right centre breathing fire on the bouncers la.. zouk la.. and ju-lee.. i am just glad that you guys aren't in charge of critical decisions. PLEASE note the above probably will not apply to those being neutral and objective.

At the end of the day, we can all speculate. My advice is in this instant matter is to consider both sides before making 'your' informed decision. Because as i mentioned earlier, this would be a smart thing to do.

And that's what being a Malaysian is all about right?

13 November, 2005 23:21  
Blogger abes said...

the guy/girl who keeps commenting about going to church really cracks me up.

ju-lee, do seek legal advice pertaining to your incident. this way, you would get a clearer and more professional POV of the matter.

i do hope that the justice you seek will be served. persevere and be strong.

for those who stand firm on "house rules", well, they ARE there for a reason. even if ju-lee and james did violate them, the question is, was beating them up necessary?

if it happened to any of you, will you think to yourself, "oh gee, i sure deserved that beating. i violated the house rules and yes, i must be punished."

will you?

14 November, 2005 00:12  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

mowkob, are u from the rojakpot topic - http://forums.rojakpot.com/showthread.php?t=18568&page=3?? from there run until here?

14 November, 2005 00:15  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My name is Kyle, i've been to zouk a couple of times in the past and i think overall its a very well done-up club. Well done meaning the setting, but in terms of Club PR ...the bouncers think they're some ghetto fabolous multi million dollar, lamborghini driving, hoochie momma magnet, big dick playa kinda of people. to me its simple...bouncers are dogs in black suits, we can't have real dogs cause they dont communicate stupidly like the bouncers in zouk,

this big size Ulfasar warcraft lookalikes are actually pea brained people...so hearing from julee's story that they whallop the living day lights of her fiancee and her, seems to be an understatement. Its lucky she got away alive... cause once their pea brain shuts down...its all about bashing only

okay..back to julee's story...ur bf's sick, he's drinking whisky (dilute or not doesn't matter), he's had heart problems (clubbing again?) he faints due to black out spells, he shits blood from his anal, he's mouth is torn apart from the bracers that were disfigured, u bleeding like a rat who got the tail chopped off,

and there's no picture...? malaymail ALWAYS has pictures to show the buyers...its their bread n butter...how could they not have pics?!

anyways...if u were making out instead of reviving ur fiancee from the dead, its okay....toilet makeouts or not...it doesnt matter

but for f#%^# bouncers to beat u n ur fiancee up...less touch u ...is a BIG NO NO.

NO PERSONEL OR AUTHORITY WHO ARE COMMISSIONED OR CONTRACTED TO PROTECT OR MAINTAIN ORDER IN A OUTLET HAS THE RIGHT TO BEAT/BASH/WHALLOP/SLAP/KICK/HUMP/TWIST WATEVER OTHER FORMS OF BEAST HANDLING MATTERS...........THEY ARE ONLY TO MOVE UNRULY PATRONS BY USING NECESSARY FORCE...ONLY NECESSARY MEANING FORCE THAT DO NOT IN ANY WAY PUT THE PATRONS LIFE IN DANGER ...UNLESS THE BOUNCERS WERE IN DANGER,

THEN AGAIN U HAVE F@#$@#9 4 BOUNCERS AGAINTS A HALF DEAD WALKING FIANCEE AND A GIRL...THAT'S NOT DANGER...THAT'S INTENDED TO CAUSE GRIEVIOUS INJURY AND TO INFLICTED MALICE ON THOSE TWO.

GET UR LAWYERS..JULEE - I HEAR BIG DING GA LING DOLLARS SIGNS....

ZOUKE MAKE A CHEQUE ...OUTSIDE SETTLEMENT.

CHEERS, I'LL BE HEADING TO ZOUK THIS FRIDAY...OPEN A BOTTLE OF CHIVAS, DANCE WITH THE FINE LADIES, AND MAYBE I'LL RETHINK WHETHER TO MAKE OUT WITH THE HOT MOMMAS IN THE TOILET...I'LL TRY THE CAR PARK LOT.

CHEERS PEOPLE

TAKECARE JULLEE


SIGNING OFF
- THE MAGIC STICK

14 November, 2005 01:02  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Friend from Texas ... the law in this country is such that BM is the national language. Our laws are conducted in that language. Our currency of exchange is Ringgit Malaysia not effing US dollars.

Having said that, there are ample avenues and people within the force to take the statement in and understand English.

Yes, it may be true that our cops are somewhat lacking, but who the eff are you to refer to them as asshats in blue?

Don't effing generalise the country and criticise our nationalism.

If you are indeed an American and do reside in Texas, you of all people have no right to judge our cops, when the American ones were captured on film beating up a black American to death!

Get off your high horse ... coming to Asia and telling us to change our laws, language, culture just because you want to things easier for yourself and other English speaking citizen. Get an effing life already.

It's like going to Thailand, Indonesia and even China and telling the cops there they have to converse in English because it's the international language. What if they don't? Fuck them silly if they don't and generalise them to be beneath all the English speaking nations!

Fuck your democratic holier-than-thou attitude!

Ju-Lee has an issue with Zouk! She will find ways to deal with it.

We don't need louts coming in here and criticising the country, its people, language and culture.

14 November, 2005 01:18  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Aaa shuddap la. You are all idiots. She is playing you for fools. I waste time read all the fan and flame posts. Only 2 people in this blog and elsewhere make sense. Read la people.

"""" Mowkob said...

I have read most of the comments posted thus far and I have read the blog twice and get Ju-lee's 'Version' of the story.

I use 'version' people, because in a situation like this there's always another side to a story. Please consider that.

Some of us here have rightly pointed out that you should always. . . always hear what the other side has to say.

In a situation like this, it's clearly a 'he say, i say, they say' situation.

And pardon me for saying. With the exception of those being objective, those of you who are generous with your sympathies must really be naive to wholly believe Ju-lee's version without considering what the other side has to say.

For those who are going to ask me to shut up, it's not that i don't too.. it just irks me when people are 'chui kong, lampa song' which translates to, mouth talk dick happy. And yes i am that free to be here and comment.

I will list my points for ease of reference.

1. Firstly, i am sick of people saying that the big establishments 'suck' and that they prey on the little people and what have you. Please. If you think it sucks, don't go there.. there are tons of other places to go like say, i don't know, church? Gee peeps. chill. Don't like it don't go. Save yourself the cover charge right? (if you re not paying, just hang out at a mamak lo.)

And yes, we have all heard from our friend, cousin, uncle, aunty about bouncers beating up people.

Please bear in mind that i have seen for myself, bouncers beating people up here in Malaysia and Australia. Why they were beating them up is non of my business.

2. Ju - lee, if your story is indeed true, you must understand with those who show dissent that reading your blog leaves many unanswered questions.

If you are trying to get your story across, no one should diss you, they made a choice to read it so put up or shut up.

But if you re trying to make a point, which i think you are, then please do understand that most people need more concrete evidence.

'Substantiation' is the word i believe used by another person here. Call me insensitive, but its true.

3. I am not even going to go into the legal aspects of this matter, which i would gladly analyze. It just boils down to the fact there is nothing here that will allow a lawyer to form an opinion.

4. Know that i am not here to post a an opinion, nor i am not here to defend Zouk. (I don't go clubbing anymore)

Know that i am not against Ju-lee, or that i believe/don't believe in her story. Guys until there's more, really, just observe. It takes two people to tango man. It really does.

And yes, like i said above, i have the darn time on this Sunday night to write about this.

What i am hoping gets across is, people, don't take things just on face value, there's always another side to the matter. Considering both sides is the smart thing to do.

And that's what being a Malaysian is all about.

13 November, 2005 22:47 """"
Other one from outside link. I put my favourite here. The rest you go read at http://forums.rojakpot.com/showthread.php?t=18568&page=3
""""Try this - create a blog stating that an Indian gang beat you up because you, a Chinese kid, was trying to court an Indian girl. Claim in your blog that they told you pure Indian blood should not be sullied by a Chinese pig. Throw in some racial slurs. Everyone loves a scandalous story like that. Next thing you know - the blog is as famous as Ju-Lee's blog with tons of people condemning the Indians.

Heck, if you throw in a sob story of how you, a sickly kid with haemolytic anaemia, had to fight off 5 burly Indians shouting Tamil obscenities at you before they stomped and broke your leg, you may even see Chinese boys going on a riot and bashing up innocent Indians.

The point of this story is.. well, on the Internet, any Tom, Dick or Harry can concoct any story they like. Taking time to create a blog or any story doesn't make it any more truthful than the latest gossip you heard from your friend, who heard from his friend's friend's friend.

Humans are very easily moved by words. As Hitler once said, the bigger the lie, the easier to fool the people. As you have seen, no matter how questions are raised about the validity of the various claims she has made, her supporters remained unfazed. They will support her even if the Supreme Court decides that she was lying all the time. Vice versa for those who disbelieve her.

IMHO, even she doesn't really know the truth anymore. She has hammered her side of the story into her psyche, forever and ever. The ONLY impartial witness would be a video recording of the entire event. That is something that can never be fooled by human emotion or words. """"
Can see some Zouk members are here. All shaddap la..

14 November, 2005 01:51  
Blogger josephine said...

for farking pls flammers u nt happy get lost!!for all they care they nd justice to be done ok fark face!!!!first of all..malaysians all really so dwn graded!!nxt i read bout the news..may it u r making out or wat..they r wrong to ve beaten up a lady...tok it out nicely..violence kill..malaysians are jus barbarians la!!

14 November, 2005 02:30  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ever since this thing came out in the malay mail, it has been blown out of proportion. The only thing I can advise you to do is to just settle this matter privately. Do you really have to get the whole world involved in this? This blog is not going to tarnish zouk, but it's actually giving zouk the extra publicity. I was there last week-end and zouk was rocking.

I have read a few comments posted and I felt some people do feel sorry for you and James but at the end of the day it's your problem and either you solve it or jsut leave it. This will not stop people from hating zouk. One day people will forget this ever happened.

I hope you and James will get back to your normal and happy life. Best of Luck.

14 November, 2005 02:42  
Anonymous professional photographer said...

wen was dat pic taken?

who took dat sucha romantic pic of u guys huggin?

juz wanna know

14 November, 2005 03:10  
Anonymous r u dumb? said...

u r a dumb fuck is it?.. cause i am.. n even me a dumb fuck can know how fuckin lame is ur essay.. if u cant bladi convince me da dumb fuck to blieve this.. u think some smart ppl out there gonna be so blind to accept ur fuckin story??

lucky i was not working ther.. cause for a dumb fuck like me.. wen a fuckin bitch talks rude like this out of a locked toilet n ask my name.. i wuld hav escorted u so politely to leave the club... n also carry ur hand bag.. is dat wut u expected?

kk... now i talk nicely 4 a moment... frm a dumb fucks view.. atleast get a pic or ur injuries.. then even i wil believe ur story 2 an extend.. k?.. ppl even fight wen others believe holy scriptures w/out proves.. wut made u think every1 on earth gonna believe ur story?

i screw up some religious ppl wen they talk bout somethin n say blieve n dun doubt.. else u lose faith... bla bla bla... n tel dat i wil go 2 hell.


for 1 last time... let me da dumb fuck 2 curse u... fuck u bitch!

14 November, 2005 03:38  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's sad to realise that everytime when bad things happen, we would see how shallow some Malaysians could be. These people would point finger to the "victim" and accuse them of being stupid dumb and caused it to happen on themselves.

Remember there was one time rape cases in Malaysia was rising like hell? What did some of the public said? They said girls who dressed sexily are asking for trouble, that they deserved to be raped. Then what about the case of the Malay engineer woman that got raped in a bus on her way to work? She was covered from head to toe for goodness sake!

My point is, people who are not the victim, who are not affected by the incident, will point fingers and blamed the victims themselves. Sadly to say, some Malaysians are always in denial. The tidak apa attitude.

14 November, 2005 04:10  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

to: r u dumb?

My sympathy to your parents as I guess your parents did not teach you proper manners. And did your parents even taught you how to respect others ppl's religion as well?

I'm an Atheist and I still respect other ppl's religion. My paents have taught me to be a rational and respectable individual.

No one asked you to believe this story. Clearly, you do not believe because God knows why but c'mon, this is Malaysia. It's not surprising that this kinda incident happens everyday.

Hopefully when you walk out of your house, you will not get robbed and slashed with a parang.

14 November, 2005 04:17  
Blogger Friend from Texas said...

To anonymous (14 November, 2005 01:18)

I like seeing knee-jerk reactions that asume I am an American and have no understanding of Malaysia. But, that just reflects the pigeon-holed mentality that is so pervasive in Malaysia....face something outside the box, and some of you get stunted to the point of being retards.

Having said that, there are ample avenues and people within the force to take the statement in and understand English.

So are you justifying the numbskull cop who refused to take the report in Engish? Is that what you expect from a victim of a crime...to shop around for a cop who is not a village idiot? I'm sure fucktards like you also blame the victim in a rape.

Yes, it may be true that our cops are somewhat lacking, but who the eff are you to refer to them as asshats in blue?

As a Malaysian taxpayer, whom these asshats in blue get their paycheck from, I have have every fucking right to criticize them. If you can't see beyond a blog handle or my present location, then you're a stupid cuntfart who needs to crawl back under your coconut husk.

If you are indeed an American and do reside in Texas, you of all people have no right to judge our cops, when the American ones were captured on film beating up a black American to death!

Typical stunted Malaysian mentality.....justify injustice in your own backyard by pointing to some injustice committed in a far away place. Two wrongs don't make a right you stupid fuckwad. Yes, I do reside in Texas, and no, I'm not American but actually Malaysian. Is that too much for your little mind to handle?

Get off your high horse ... coming to Asia and telling us to change our laws, language, culture just because you want to things easier for yourself and other English speaking citizen. Get an effing life already.

How stupid are you, really? Nowhere did I mention there needs to be a change in culture, laws, language, etc. All I said was the the police, especially those in charge of filing reports or responding to emergencies, need to be able to communicate in English (both understand and speak).

Fuck your democratic holier-than-thou attitude!

Fuck your nationalistic, knee-jerk reaction that reveals what a shallow minded fuckwad you are.

Go back to your village where its ok to not be able to speak English. Go pick coconuts for a living or something...its quite obvious a big city is not right for you.

Ju-Lee has an issue with Zouk! She will find ways to deal with it.

And that's exactly what this blog should be about. It doesn't matter if she and fiance were making out....they could've been having an orgy in there for all I care. But that gives no right to the Neanderthals to beat them up.....4 against 1. That is the point most of you asshats are missing. And so what if Zouk gave them a 25k settlement....that shows the fuckers are trying to put a lid on this.

All you doubting fuckers should go jump in the Klang river.

14 November, 2005 05:12  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

some of you people really make me sick.. especially people like r u dumb? why the fuck are you even reading this blog if you dont believe what ju-lee is saying? as if that wasnt enough, you have to come and aggravate and curse her. you should really consider changing your nick to am i dumb instead, you fucking mental retard

14 November, 2005 08:41  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HaHa. Isnt this Public?

Else just post this and dont allow any comments.

Another retard barking nonsense.

14 November, 2005 08:45  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If her story is SO VERY TRUE, it would have been on the Front Page of every Daily in this country with PICTURES to back her claim.

I hope the Police arrest this stupid Bitch and let her do time!!!

14 November, 2005 08:49  
Anonymous cheneille said...

i cannot WAIT to see all those people who critisized ju-lee for speaking out to just get into the same sort of trouble.

that's when us sane people will applaude. taste your own little medicine.

what goes around comes around.

14 November, 2005 09:40  
Anonymous Benediction said...

I would just like to comment that perhaps a review of security personnel is in order.

There has to be a better way to resolve issues than just bashing ones head in. After all, we are an affluent and sophisticated society are we not?

Even if the victims incited trouble, resorting to bashing patrons over something that can be resolved amicably seems to be the real problem.

14 November, 2005 10:02  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Friend from texas ... ur name doesn't happen to have the initial E.S does it?

14 November, 2005 10:34  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ju-Lee, just close this blog or keep it up without allowing comments.

After all, this is just ur avenue to express ur personal feelings about what you've gone through.

I'm sure you have enough good friends to comfort you and to advise you.

There is more abuse here than anywhere else. Why don't you just go about your little struggle and just update the progress on the blog, instead of allowing for comments. If any of the blog readers want to comment, they can comment on their own blogs ~ whether it's hateful shit or just in support of you.

Makes sense?

At this time, the comments have deteriorated to a level unbecoming.

Unless of course, you are one whoring bitch who wants publicity and enjoys playing people's emotions! In which case, u r a cunt!

14 November, 2005 10:41  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

after reading the entire thing, hehehe just tell the truth la you were having some 'fun' in the toilet, no need hide hide wan we all understand the club 'rush'.

dun tell me the crap is she was kicked or stuff the bouncer 100% wrong, heck we all dun know what happens inside also what.

lock door to wipe face.....that's a new reason for me to give the bouncers when i go inside toilet have some........'rush'. i hope you win the case, if win already next time bouncer sure won't kacau any couple inside the toilet anymore. good luck. gambatehh~~~!!

14 November, 2005 11:02  
Anonymous anonymous said...

lol

14 November, 2005 11:31  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

must win must win the case!!!

14 November, 2005 11:43  
Anonymous Malaysian Citizen said...

i think Zouk and Both you u sucks!

if u think Zouk Sucks.. why go to that place?

Why get into a dip-shit hole if u dont like to be treated like shit??

Damn both of you deserve what u faced because u find ur own trouble..

if i were the police or the authority.. or whoever u come to seek justice.. i will LAUGH MY ASS OFF and chase you and ur stupid boyfriend off my office.. coz i have better things to do rather than look into this mess which u and ur stupid boyfriend and that ASS WIPING STUPID CLUB Zouk come across with.

People like you and ur stupid boyfriend.. and Club like Zouk is the one bringing Malaysia into bad reputation. People like u and ur stupid boyfriend should not be here in Malaysia. Clubs like Zouk Should be Close Down.. so that Stupid couples and freak Clubber cant go anywhere to search for trouble..

So bare with it..

and honestly.. fuck that Texas Friend who ever fuck.. dont talk anything bout Malaysia.. as ur from a fucking Shit Hole Far from here... why not u get ur fucking Texas ass back to ur hometown and Lick ur President's Ass..

This swearing is not for this Blog's Owner.. but that Texas Fuck Friend.. ONLY...

14 November, 2005 11:52  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Internet flaming is like running the special olympics..even if you win,you're still a retard

14 November, 2005 11:54  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

err texas friend, how sure are you it;s 4 against 1, or the beating actually happened, or whoever starts the kicking?

heck, it might be the bf kicked the bouncer, the bouncer kicked him back and then the girl comes in and help her bf, bouncer calls for help drag them out with 4 person?

we're skeptical coz we do not want to jump to final conclusion just by reading her story one side rite?

what if it's just like the finger in soup case? nimala's abuse case?

14 November, 2005 12:01  
Blogger abes said...

"Anonymous said...

If her story is SO VERY TRUE, it would have been on the Front Page of every Daily in this country with PICTURES to back her claim.

I hope the Police arrest this stupid Bitch and let her do time!!!

14 November, 2005 08:49
"

Has it ever occured to you that there are MANY unreported incidents? Heck, there are even murders that aren't reported.

To friend from texas:
Well said.

Ju-Lee, lawyer up and bring this matter to court. The mere fact that they tried to pay their way through reflects guilt. Obviously, they do know that what they did was wrong and they're hoping that you won't sue them. Well, sue them. Hope it works out for you.

14 November, 2005 12:09  
Blogger abes said...

"Anonymous said...

err texas friend, how sure are you it;s 4 against 1, or the beating actually happened, or whoever starts the kicking?

heck, it might be the bf kicked the bouncer, the bouncer kicked him back and then the girl comes in and help her bf, bouncer calls for help drag them out with 4 person?

we're skeptical coz we do not want to jump to final conclusion just by reading her story one side rite?

what if it's just like the finger in soup case? nimala's abuse case?"


Battle it out in court then.

14 November, 2005 12:11  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so then battle in court not in here.

wonder why ppl sticks 100% support her, while some other 100% tell it's a lie.

just keep it to yourself wait for the verdict. and stop the comments posting

14 November, 2005 12:20  
Anonymous Madeline said...

TO Ju-Lee & James. I'm terribly sorry about what has happen to you both and i understand how much of pain both you and james went thru. I too went thru the similar thing and no one came to our aid. My best friend and I were beaten outside Rush and no one stopped the fight. we were just walking to the car. No one came to our aid and we were beaten till we could take it no more. all the guards, by passers, bouncers did was just sit and stare. But from what the police told me when i made my report was that it could be mistaken identity and that we were in the wrong place at the wrong time. They have been quiet about it and i still do hope that justice would be proved one day.

Its not thru that all Malaysians don't bother to help in time of need. there are some who are willing to jump into situations like these to help but few. These are very hard to comeby. Its going to be pretty hard to get hold of Zouk's higher management to actually revert to you. However, the least they could have done was a courtesy phone call to inform of the actions that will be taken on their side to prevent this from happening again. But i do wish you all the best on this matter.

To those who think that this site is a joke. I'm pretty sure this is a serious matter. It's not something anyone could possibly joke about. I'm sure Ju-Lee and James are already going thru a hard time and we don't need to make it worst. It's times like these that they both need support and not crude remarks and insults. Have a more human heart and keep your cruel comments to yourself.

To Zouk Management. Being a widely known club, i think it's rather unprofessional to hide and stay quiet. Your club's reputation is at stake and all you do is shut up? This case could tarnish the reputation of all Zouk outlets not just the one in KL. Even your staffs should be properly trained before putting them in the job. They can't possibly go around and beat the customers up! Just by keeping quiet and not doing anything about this case just shows cowardness. I admit that i love going to Zouk but i don't think i would want to go there if i know that the security staff could possibly do this kind of things to me. What is the point of having bouncers for security if they are going to be the ones to assult the customers. As a customer, I wouldn't feel the slightest bit of safety if this is going to happen. I'm sorry to say this but if this goes on then i'm sure your reputation is bound to go down. Zouk isn't the only club in that area. There's still lots more around the corner.

To James & Ju-Lee, I wish the both of you a speedy recover and that you win this case. Justice needs to be proved and i'm on your side on this matter.

This is all i have to say on this matter and once again, Good luck on winning this case. You have my 100% support.

14 November, 2005 12:21  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

must win the case must win!!!

then we can have some 'rush' in the toilet w/out ppl knocking the door or drag us out.

14 November, 2005 12:28  
Blogger Friend from Texas said...

To anonymous (14 November, 2005 10:34)

Friend from texas ... ur name doesn't happen to have the initial E.S does it?

'fraid not my friend.

To malaysian citizen who blabbered on about:

and honestly.. fuck that Texas Friend who ever fuck.. dont talk anything bout Malaysia.. as ur from a fucking Shit Hole Far from here... why not u get ur fucking Texas ass back to ur hometown and Lick ur President's Ass..

You're an illiterate moron. Go back and read my comments to see how far off the mark you are....oh wait, I forgot, you can't read. Oh well, go back to your job scraping gum off the floor of a bus stop rather than wasting bandwidth here.

14 November, 2005 12:49  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm Lordwater2002 from NMT Autoworld.

People! What I can say about the situation in here that all of us can learn today is POLITICS. We had some bad comment and good one, we also had a person to critics and people to stir around the situation and giving out some stupid comment!

Hey! Enough said and done! I don't like any personal story but I like to hear how they handle their problem and sees how this matter settle in the end. This is what we are going to discuss.

The main issue from Ju-Lee and of course many people who supported them is

BOUNCERS / OFFICER and HUMAN RIGHTS!

BOUNCERS Should not use violence to a patron as they are in the service industry to maintain peace and safety to its reponsibility. Violence can be used if the patron possess a dangerous weapon or life-threatening action to themselves ELSE they had no single rights to bash them up!

OFFICER that involves in handling this case, we would like to see how professional they can execute in closing this case. Professionalism is the most effective in stopping all the rumours running around the country about their incapability.

HUMAN RIGHTS that will justice the whole case or it just a plain nothing in Malaysia. How the judge identify Human Rights in Malaysia. This is the most interesting part of all in this Zouk Abuse.

I had a lot of Bouncer friends that working in the most famous club in KL (definately not ZOUK). I had seen them never land a fist or kick to any of their arrogant patron eventhou the patron started to hit them. They told me that this guy already made a fuss inside the club and they don't need another fuss outside the club which will leads them to drive patron away. I truly respect their professionalism and that is the right way to handle Ju-Lee situation by the bouncer in ZOUK. Not grouping and bashing them up and show other people around...
'Look don't mess up in ZOUK else you'll end up like them! UNDERSTAND!'

You can kiss my arse for that kind of bashing! If I were there at ZOUK that night. I'll definately take the picture and post in the net!

14 November, 2005 13:02  
Anonymous U dont fool me said...

This is so obvious. This couple have trumped up a story to either gain compensation out of their on fault, or to get back at zouk cos they were caught doing something they shouldnt hv done.

Think in perspective,

1) the papers mentioned tht the female involved kept changing her story, yet she has said nothing abt this to defend herself.

2) The "sick fiance" story is just a tactic to gain sympathy. I mean, he has black out problems and apparently a hole in his heart. Yet they decided to go to a disco filled with patrons and ciggy smoke and drink whisky...hmmm??

3) Out of the thousand patrons there, not one has came to speak up for yr fiance and U. Not even one credible eye witness ...yr clubbing buddie doesnt count la.. what u think we r stoopid??

4) You r brave enough to go to the press, to make police reports and to seek legal assistance, yet u cant substantiate yr claims of injury by taking pics of yrself. many ppl have camera HP's .. u can snap yr back , yet u cant snap yr face??????

5)I am not denying tht the attack did happen, i am denying yr explanation. After all you did admit tht u were in the male oilet cubicle...u also admitted tht yr fiance did kick out at the bouncer... A drunk guy , in and out of consciousness kicking at the bouncer after he had caught u and him in a cubicle... what do u expect? sounds like ur bf is the 1st aggressor....

6) I wonder how ppl can believe u after in yr words "Sadly you have to blow things out of proportion in the press and generate a public interest before things are done. "

so which part of blown out then? the part whr they assaulted u ?
the part where yr bf is a sick man? or the part that u werent making out in the toilet? What was blown out of proportion?

U try to prey on ppls sympathy. try to shame the club. u r a gold digger.

14 November, 2005 13:12  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

let her win let her win the case!!! i wanna have a quiet toilet where no ppl comes banging when i'm having fun!!

14 November, 2005 13:31  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These retards are bring up murders not being reported.

Why cant you stick to this story?

If it's so true, Malay Mail would be covering it day in day out.

I bet these bitch watch too much of Wild Things and she and her best friend and the guy are having threesome now.

14 November, 2005 13:36  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"so which part of blown out then? the part whr they assaulted u ?
the part where yr bf is a sick man? or the part that u werent making out in the toilet? What was blown out of proportion?

U try to prey on ppls sympathy. try to shame the club. u r a gold digger."


Very true, this 2 bitches and the pimp should be in jail.

After such an accident can still go back to China, shouldnt he be in hospital for medical check up?

HaHaHaH!!!

14 November, 2005 13:39  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

common la......ur story is so 1 sided....and can see ur trying to cover ur own tracks.....i tink u really make out in d toilet...and that zouk management really take action on u...which is the right thing to do....u just making up stories....and this is how u counter attack at zouk...the condition of ur bf is doubtful...and the way u justified ur opinion is really2 sellfish.....maybe the bouncers tink ur a thai or china whore doing business with mat salleh guy.....wait a minute....may be u r......serve u right.....

14 November, 2005 13:48  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tat's becos its an exaggeration of the truth, which is technically not a lie ;-p

Ju-lee, hurry up, go get urself a good special effects make-up artist and get u n james done up, so that u can take a picture and make this story even more convincing.

Why divert the attention of cops not speaking English and being mistreated at this place and that place while seeking justice?

Your problem is with Zouk. If you feel that you have grounds to sue for assault, which you evidently claim, then hire a damn lawyer and sue their pants off, instead of giving us this "crying game".

We want to see progress on your fight for justice too, not your justification on why wronged people have to be treated better and be spoken to in English.

You claimed to have spoken to a high ranking police ... what's the outcome? Best advice to you, is if nothing is moving, do a press conference.

Then, you'll see instant action and everyone will know the truth.

Until then, you're both just a horny couple, who were banging in the toilet till u got found out.

I am not saying that I am condoning the violence that had befallen you. All I'm saying is if there's truth in what really happened, then you would have grounds to sue Zouk without a question.

But if you're ass-shitting, then these stories that you have fabricated obviously makes your case very weak.

In fact, I have sent Zouk the reference to this blog as I too would like to know the "truth" from their point of view.

14 November, 2005 13:49  
Anonymous damryn said...

"Internet flaming is like running the special olympics..even if you win,you're still a retard"

lol well put :)

"In fact, I have sent Zouk the reference to this blog as I too would like to know the "truth" from their point of view."
- malay mail has their side of the story.

14 November, 2005 14:35  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i was just wondering if it happened to your relatives, would you ppl still think like that.

if your relatives were making out in the public toilet and SHE got bashed up for that, it is OK with you because they were indecent? are you saying your m*m or your s*s deserves a slap if they were caught making out in public? I'm not saying that this poor girl did that in zouk. I'm just wondering if what went on in the cubicle is more important than the fact that Julee got bashed!

14 November, 2005 14:42  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

damryn : the ex zouk manager also has blog bout it on her view.

14 November, 2005 14:42  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry to hear what happened to your fiancee and you at Zouks. Unfortunately, crap like that is bound to happen when people employed to give security are uneducated and usually have ties to some organized gangs in the viscinity. As far as the police in Malaysia are concerned, it is sad to say, but its expected. Did you know the minimum requirement to be a constabel is a UPSR exam? (something like a middle school diploma equivalent, if there is such a thing elsewhere)

Don't get me wrong, I love my country but like all other countries there are things that could very obviously be done better especially here.

Ju-Lee, my advice for you to get an upper hand in this situation, is to try and solicit the help of an insider. Someone who worked at Zouk that unfortunate night or another patron, even though i doubt it, maybe you'll find someone who can testify to your story. You never know till you try, there may be hope in some people yet, which is more than I can say for some of the brain-dead morons who posted here.

Case

14 November, 2005 14:54  
Blogger Epocholyte said...

"Internet flaming is like running the special olympics..even if you win,you're still a retard"

I do not consider this well put.
I resent the term Retard in its use though I understand the context in which it is used here.

However, it does have very malicious intentions in that statement, sweeping into generalization.

Again, I understand the use and reference for the poster to use it but I (probably the few) find offense to it (not the poster).

My brother has participated for several years in the Special Olympics so the statement seems rather cruel. I don't take it personally but I do take it that the phrase was done in poor referential taste.

14 November, 2005 14:59  
Anonymous Madeline said...

Ju-Lee & James,

Just be strong and hang in there. Those bouncers will receive their punishment. What they did was wrong. What is important right now is that the both of you can make a stand for yourself and speak of only the truth. Just do what is right and you wouldn't have to worry of anything. There are comments posted on this site that can only hurt how you feel. but just take it as a passing comment and think more about how you are gonna stand up and fight against Zouk to win your BATTLE!

Be Strong!

14 November, 2005 15:16  
Anonymous worldangel said...

pls dun make things more difficult than it already is for the blogger. If you dun believe, just get out of here and go do your trolling elsewhere. Even if they do make out in the toilet, it is uncalled of for the bouncers to beat the guy up so badly that he suffered from injuries.

14 November, 2005 15:17  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

once again, how sure are you they are beaten?

so if the bf kicks ppl is right, then bouncer retaliate back is wrong?

14 November, 2005 15:25  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

she might be exagerrated the beatings by the bouncer and soften her 'bf kick'.

14 November, 2005 15:26  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

so you expect the bouncers to be beaten until he call mama help me?

14 November, 2005 15:27  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Next time want to make out in toilet don't go to zouk, here is some recommendation from TV SMITH.

THE DEFINITIVE GUIDE TO TOILET SEX IN MALAYS

14 November, 2005 15:31  
Anonymous Pak Hj Samuri said...

Izinkan Pakcik mengiklankan restoran Pakcik kat sini, memandangkan banyak jugak orang yg memasuki blog ni.

Kunjungila Restoran Sate Haji Samuri yg termasyhur di Malaysia.

Kunjungila laman pakcik yg tertera di sini.

Ayam, kambing, Daging semua ade ... serta arnab, ikan, rusa dan jugak sate tradisi perut dan hati.

Buatla tempahan anda hari ni jugak.

14 November, 2005 15:36  
Anonymous Pak Hj Samuri said...

Izinkan Pakcik mengiklankan restoran Pakcik kat sini, memandangkan banyak jugak orang yg memasuki blog ni.

Kunjungila Restoran Sate Haji Samuri yg termasyhur di Malaysia.

Kunjungila laman pakcik yg tertera di sini.

Ayam, kambing, Daging semua ade ... serta arnab, ikan, rusa dan jugak sate tradisi perut dan hati.

Buatla tempahan anda hari ni jugak.

14 November, 2005 15:36  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

pak hj samuri, toilet restoran pakcik boleh bersoronok tak? pasti tak ada bouncer-ah?

14 November, 2005 15:45  
Blogger Wai Keat said...

why you dont want to admit you two are making love in the toilet? I know the bouncer is wrong to beat you up but why you dont want admit you are making love in the toilet.

14 November, 2005 15:47  
Anonymous Pak Haji Samuri said...

Takde nak, boleh singgah kat restoran pakcik. Siler masuk ... bawak la mana2 awek u nak bawak. Tapi ... belila sate Pakcik dulu sebelum main hentam kat jamban.

14 November, 2005 15:55  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oi Wai Keat ... u horny dog u ... why u care if they make love? The issue is they kena wallop la not make love. U ah, horny only ... go buy porn and watch la.

14 November, 2005 15:57  
Anonymous Muthusamy Karupiah aka Sam said...

kaNNaaLanE enadhu kaNNai nEtrOdu kaaNavillai
en kaNgaLai paritthukkondu Eninnum pESavillai
aaLaana oru SEdhi ariyaamalE
alai paayum Siru pEdhai naanO
un pErum en pErum theriyaamalE
uLLangaL idamaarumEnO
vaai pESavE vaaippillayE, vali theera vazhiyennavO

undhan kaNjaadai vizhundhadhil nenjam nenjam
tharikkettu thaLumbudhu nenjam
endhan mElaadai parandhadhil konjam konjam
pirai mugam paarthadhu konjam
rattham kodhikodhikkum ulai kodhitthidum neerkkumizh pOla
sittham thudithudikkum puyal edhirtthidum Orilai pOla
panitthuLidhan enna SeyyumO
moongil kaattil thee vizhumbOdhu
moongil kaadenru aayinal maadhu
kaNNaLanE..

oru minsaarapparvayin vEgam vEgam
unnOdu naan kandu kondEn
oru peNNOdu thOnridum thaabam thaabam
ennOdu naan kandu kondEn
ennai marandhu vittEn indha ulagatthil naanillai naanillai
unnai izhandhuvittaal endha malarilum thEnillai thEnillai
idhu kanavaa illai nanavaa
ennai kiLLi uNmai theLindhen
unnai paartthendhan thaaimozhi marandhEn
kaNNaaLane..

14 November, 2005 16:08  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

kuch kuch hota hei

14 November, 2005 16:10  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hey this chick that kena bashed up.....she a sarong party girl ah? SPG....

14 November, 2005 16:20  
Anonymous Bruce LEE said...

kena bashed up for being stupid. now that's a lesson taught.

NExt time u learn Kung Fu from me!

14 November, 2005 16:24  
Anonymous homer said...

hey maybe she's into BDSM....so her bf's injuries are actually inflicted by her! *gulp*. that's it...i'm staying off the hot wax

14 November, 2005 16:25  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

she's a SPG alrite .. stupid partee girl kakakaka

14 November, 2005 16:41  
Anonymous Madeline said...

OMG! YOU PEOPLE HANE NOTHING BETTER TO DO BUT MAKE FUN OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY ARE DOWN HUH? DON'T YOU PEOPLE HAVE ANYTHING BETTER TO DO THAN TO PICK ON THEM?

14 November, 2005 17:02  
Anonymous Skeevybob said...

Wow if im gona be paid rm25k for settlement,i don't mind making out in the toilets as well, and to take a few punches for that. Well worth the cause.

14 November, 2005 17:09  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Summary: -
a. hole in the heart still can go party and drink
b. emergency still can lock toilet door
c. beaten up so bad still can go overseas...
d. changed story to police twice
e. no pictures of supposed abuse
f. no scans of medical records
g. no witnesses?

14 November, 2005 17:15  
Anonymous Sam Singh said...

Kici kici lembu jaga,
sudah besar masuk askar,
bila pencen bank jaga,

kici kici lembu jaga,

ada misai takda janggut itu kuching!!
ada janggut takda misai itu kambing!!
ada misai ada janggut itu brader singh!!

kici kici lembu jaga ...

14 November, 2005 17:22  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Madeline..No point in getting upset over these useless comments..They have nothin better to do than make a fool out of themselves..Just a bunch of words anyway tat is not going to harm Ju-Lee physically anymore...I find it quite amusing tho..rather entertaining..=)

SO Madeline i suggest tat u sit back, relax & enjoy the show..

14 November, 2005 17:25  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

haih denial of truth.

14 November, 2005 17:28  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Madeline I love you ... ;-p

14 November, 2005 17:28  
Anonymous Madeline said...

I'm begining to really think that you all reeally don't have anything better to do. If you have nothing nice to say then don't say anything. Why do you have to go and torment them and say terrible things like that? what if it were to happen to you instead? i'm sure you'd be very frustrated that people are saying nasty things like that to you and about you!

14 November, 2005 18:58  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

dear ju lee,

i am angry and sadden to read what u and james had went through. i used to visit zouk often and cannot believe this has happened. maybe now i will think twice about going there. mb never at all.

as for the police women who insulted you, did you get her name and badge number?? maybe you can report her to her superiors. english, is an international language, if police personels cannot understand that language, maybe they should no be in the force.

but, the part about police ignorance anger me the most. who are we suppose to turn to in times of trouble when the police themselves behave in this way. i said i can understand the fustration and anger u felt because a fren of mine went through something like this. thought nothing to do with bouncers, but with clubs and the police.

the thing about malaysians is that a lot of them stereotype clubbers. just because we party we are condemed as undisciplined, wild, promiscuious and basically trouble makers. we should look into ourselves first before we judge people.

when i read about the part where other clubbers were just standing there and looking at the both of you being beaten up, oh how i wish i was there myself so that i can pick up a stool and slam it into one of the bouncers. so much for caring malaysians.

some days, i really do feel like giving up on our country...

well, all the best to you and james. i know it took guts to do what you have done.

baby

14 November, 2005 19:37  
Anonymous DAP supporter said...

come and find Lim Kit Siang,he is my friend, he will help you settle

14 November, 2005 19:41  
Anonymous anonymous2 said...

what is all this stupid anonymous doing here... talking crap....

14 November, 2005 19:52  
Anonymous Zouk S Clubber said...

lady, you will not win your case. Zouk is a huge clubbing industry. you are only a small fry.

14 November, 2005 19:55  
Anonymous Pak Hj Samuri said...

Sorry for my previous posting, i know i'm a jerk that only jerks off at any semi-naked chick magazine that i can lay my hand on to. My deepest sympathy to the couple and being a typical Malaysian, all i'm doing now is to tease and laugh at them. I'm a good for nothing bastard and beg for your forgiveness.

To all the other lamers like me, please grow up and realise how stupid and dumb you're behaving. We're talking about humans getting bashed up here and you can still joke around. Rest asure that all this will happen to you someday and everyone would just laugh back at you.

14 November, 2005 20:27  
Anonymous bruce lee said...

i agree with pak and i'm sorry too for my comments, the only person i would bash is my mother.

14 November, 2005 20:29  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah, sorry for being someone without common sense for posting rubbish before this. All well ends well with JL.

14 November, 2005 20:32  
Anonymous Happily gay said...

Poor poor thing, Ju Lee. Sigh I agree with what Pak Samurai said. Please accept my sympathies for what mean things those people said about you.

However, I guess they just found the story a bit hard to believe. You know what they say, when a person goes into too much detail, it raises all the liar alarms. But of course you were just doing so because then people would know what actually went on.

Good luck with the lawsuit!

14 November, 2005 23:05  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can share the pay-out with me or not if you win the case against Zouk?

14 November, 2005 23:07  
Anonymous Human Rights said...

1. There is nothing except in a case of self-defense that allows a person to cause physical hurt to another individual.

2. Grow up Malaysians, what’s with Malaysians and sex? Sex is nothing dirty or anything to be ashamed of. And why is it anybody’s business if someone else is having sex even if it’s in a public area? As long as it isn’t against either of the couple’s wishes, then sex is just between them and it’s none of your business. Stop being so childish.

3. Having sexual intercourse in a toilet does not give someone else the right to beat up the couple. So people please, stop asking “why is the door locked” and keep on harping on the issue that these couple might have any sexual scene behind the toilet door. Even if they did it does not give anyone any rights or in this matter the club’s security personnel to physically abuse them, or YOU to mentally harass them on this topic.

4. Being sick does not mean you have to wait by your tombstone for death. It’s even more of a reason to go out and live your life – the way you want it. So what if he has heart or liver problems, he has his own right to drink and be at any where he wants to be. There is no logic why others are taking the victim’s health as an excuse for the victim being beaten up.

5. I’ve seen bouncers in clubs being hauled at by beer bottle and yet, the culprit doesn’t get bashed up – is a kick as a matter of defense causes 4 bouncers to be threaten? I don’t think so. As a woman, I myself would have flag my middle finger when I come across rowdy and rude men, as a guy I could understand that a shove or a measure of self-defense especially when your damsel is in distress would seem appropriate (although stupid) at the time.

I should say I was skeptical about the story at first, but then using my own instinct and how I would have handled the situation I sympathies with the ordeal you two had and would have to go through. I understand as well how Malaysians judges each other by their race, and if you’re a foreigner you’re equivalent to trouble, or that women with foreigner partners are deemed as sex objects or money minded. I’ve seen how many Malaysians have just shut an eye to a person in need of help, great examples are in motor accidents where they rather slow down to look at number plates then to stop and see if any help is needed. I am not categorizing Malaysians, I’ve had some experiences with very empathic and helpful Malaysians as well (these people are a gem and are rare), just wish the other ignorant Malaysians could learn from them. I’ve had my load of troubles with certain people or organization which I would not wish to mention – therefore I can understand how frustrating and depressing it must have been for you and your partner. If justice (if there is any at all left in this country) can’t prevail at least you know that you’ve done your part of it. Good luck.

14 November, 2005 23:11  
Anonymous applecrush said...

You say this blog to inform everyone for public good. You also start petition. Tomorrow Zouk pay you out of court on condition you delete blog. Will you accept? If you accept then all this is cock. Only to pressure to get paid. Everyone here whether support or object all taken for a ride.

If don't accept, then i respect.

14 November, 2005 23:53  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

unfortunately i couldn't login to my blog to post under my nick but hell no am i one of the lamers further up in the comments. I was like many skeptical about the posts on your blog but then thought to myself, heck this is malaysia i've seen on numerous occasions purse snatchers zooming pass stealing. i've seen people getting beaten up at local mamaks. I was over at petaling street one evening and heck i even saw a malay fellow running for his life chased by other men with pipes who were malay's as well. it never was about culture but more of ego. but to the lamerz i've seen chickens and ducks quack and cluck better than you. if you can't spare a good criticism with respect then what the heck are you reading their blog to begin with.

oh by the way to zouk s clubber, Zouk is a name owned by probably a well off business man who only became rich because of you lamerz who would do anything to protect the name and no way is zouk a clubbing industry. its part of the clubbin industry. small fry u say try netscape suein the holy shit out of microsoft and winning. where the hell have you been? to protect the name you have to play the game. i would love to see this happen to you or any of the lamerz at a club. are you going to run home and cry or... or or like them go to the police and make a police report in BM? heck u might as well call/write/email/sms/mms/snail The Malay Mail and tell them your story because they love stories like these. but nah u probably would want to do some thing about so u probably tell ur friends on msn then heaven forbid start a blog website just like this and start bitchin. its the internet we can find anything and i would be the first to laugh at you.

to the guyz in the incident all the best to you

15 November, 2005 02:30  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You got some fcuked up comments on this posting. To hell with them, i say. If i was in your position, i would do the same. Actually, i would do more. Quid pro quo. Enuf said.

PS. Sorry to hear about you and James. Hope you guys feel better and move on with life, happily :) Cheers

15 November, 2005 07:42  
Blogger Melissa said...

Hi Ju-lee,

I want to give you a BIG HUG for being such a courageous person!

I takes someone with a lot of courage and strength to handle the incident at Zouk the way you did. I salute your decision to tell your story via this blog and your efforts to see justice done!

My prayers are with you & your fiancee.

God bless.

15 November, 2005 09:45  
Anonymous satmos said...

Human Rights said...
1. There is nothing except in a case of self-defense that allows a person to cause physical hurt to another individual.

---> WHATS MAKES U SO SURE THAT THE BOUNCERS DIDNT ACT IN SELF DEFENCE? SHE DID ADMIT THAT HER BF LANDED THE 1ST KICK AT THE BOUNCERS. AND ALSO , SHE ADMITTED THT SHE HAD BLOWN THINGS OUT OF PROPORTION TO THE PRESS.

2. Grow up Malaysians, what’s with Malaysians and sex? Sex is nothing dirty or anything to be ashamed of. And why is it anybody’s business if someone else is having sex even if it’s in a public area? As long as it isn’t against either of the couple’s wishes, then sex is just between them and it’s none of your business. Stop being so childish.

----> YOU ARE WRONG, THERE WERENT HAVING SEX IN A PUBLIC AREA, IT WAS A PRIVATE PROPERTY. THE OWNER OF THE PROPERTY HAS THE RIGHT TO MAKE THE RULES OF HIS/HER PROPERTY. JUST THE SAME AS U MAKE THE RULES TO YOUR HOUSE, BE IT NO SEX OR NO DRUGS ETC ETC, BREAKING THE RULES OF A PRIVATE PROPERTY IS ENOUGH FOR TH OWNER TO KICK U OUT

3. Having sexual intercourse in a toilet does not give someone else the right to beat up the couple. So people please, stop asking “why is the door locked” and keep on harping on the issue that these couple might have any sexual scene behind the toilet door. Even if they did it does not give anyone any rights or in this matter the club’s security personnel to physically abuse them, or YOU to mentally harass them on this topic.

---> THE ISSUE HERE ISNT IF THERE WAS SEX OR NOT, BUT IF THIS BLOGGER IS TAKING EVERYONE FOR A RIDE. ITS TRUE, HAVING SEX IS NOT ENOUGH REASON BEAT SOMEONE, BUT AS I SAID, HOW SURE R U THT HER BF ISNT THE 1ST AGGRESSOR?. ALSO, SHE HOLDS FIRM THT SHE WAS NOT HAVING SEX, IF SHE IS PROVEN WRONG IN THE SEX PART (WHICH I THINK THE LOCKED DOOR ISSUE ALMOST PROVES THAT) THEN THE WHOLE STORY IS A HOAX. HER BF IS NOT A POOR SICK MAN, HER BF DIDNT LAND A SOFT KICK ON THE BOUNCER BUT A RATHER HARD ONE, THE WHOLE SICK BF LAYING ON THE FLOOR UN-CONSCIOUS IS THEN FALSE. IF SHE WAS INDEED TRYING TO HELP HER SICK BF, THERE IS NO REASON TO LOCK THE DOOR.
NO ONE IS ATTACKING HER 4 THE SEX IN TOILET PART, PPL ARE CHECKING THE CREDIBILITY OF HER STORY.

4.Being sick does not mean you have to wait by your tombstone for death. It’s even more of a reason to go out and live your life – the way you want it. So what if he has heart or liver problems, he has his own right to drink and be at any where he wants to be. There is no logic why others are taking the victim’s health as an excuse for the victim being beaten up.

---> AGAIN , PPL R NOT ASKING HIM TO STAY HOME AND ROT. THE QUESTION HERE IS , WAS HE REALLY THAT POOR SICK BOY SHE CLAIMS HIM TO BE? IF HE WAS SICK THEN WHY LOCK THE DOOR WHEN HELPING HIM?
IF SHE WAS HAVING SEX WITH HIM, THEN HE COULDNT BE THAT SICK AYE?

5. I’ve seen bouncers in clubs being hauled at by beer bottle and yet, the culprit doesn’t get bashed up – is a kick as a matter of defense causes 4 bouncers to be threaten? I don’t think so. As a woman, I myself would have flag my middle finger when I come across rowdy and rude men, as a guy I could understand that a shove or a measure of self-defense especially when your damsel is in distress would seem appropriate (although stupid) at the time.

---> WAS IT REALLY ONE KICK? OR WAS HE SHOUTING ABUSE, ATTACKING AND KICKING IN A DRUNKEN MANNER LIKE HOW PPL DRUNK IN CLUBS BEHAVE?
MAYBE HE WAS ANGRY THT HE DIDNT GET TO FINISH HIS TOILET DEED WITH HIS GF? AND TOOK IT OUT ON THE BOUNCERS?
LET ME ALSO REMIND U THAT OUT OF THE HUNDREDS OF PPL ALLEGEDLY WITNESSING THE INCIDENT, NOT ONE HAS COME UP TO SUBSTANTIATE HER STORY (EXCEPT HER FRIEND)

15 November, 2005 10:10  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

oh fark off satmos. you obviously got too much time to post such a long comment you wanker. i bet ur a fat bastard that does not even have a girlfriend and u probably wank with your left hand while typing this comment.

15 November, 2005 11:17  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

shaddap la... u all talk like u know wat happen. we all dun. So, shadap and go sleep.

15 November, 2005 11:18  
Blogger extrinsic said...

anonymous 11:17

can you say anything better than using curse words? satmos reasoned his believes.

can you handle freedom of speech? do you know how to handle freedom of speech? if you can't please go and read up here

http://www.jeffooi.com/archives/2004/01/can_you_handle.php

before sending comments that does not contribute to this blog.

15 November, 2005 12:03  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

extrinsic 12:03

oh me so sorry yah mr.extrinsic FICTION man. Haha. u started a blog just to comment on other people's blog? wow, ur really good!! I bet u get alot of hits with that blog. What a loser! I am sure u really did contribute to this blog huh? Now go change into the panties that ur mum gave to you for Christmas cause i know u just soiled it reading this :)

15 November, 2005 12:29  
Blogger extrinsic said...

anonymous 12:29

there is nothing on that blog, you stupid idiot! don't care if there is any hit. right, just create to comment here. better than you moron who hide behind an anonymous. don't even know which anonymous is your comment. just admit lah if you can't handle freedom of speech.

15 November, 2005 13:51  
Anonymous Pak Hj Samuri said...

Pakcik mana bole berbasa dalam Inggeris. Pakcik ni melayu tulen, sekolah pon sekolah pondok. Pakcik baru sampai tingkatan 2 aje dulu. Lepas, tu jual la sate sampai hari ni. Kalau nak menyamar sebagai pakcik pon, baik guna otak skit. Jangan la main hentam mcm org kena hentam dlm jamban.

Sate Hj. Samuri sedia menerima tempahan.

15 November, 2005 13:54  
Anonymous Pak Hj Samuri said...

ignore what i just said guys, was just trying out my kampong slank with this newly bought magazine that translates english. sorry for my rude behaviour again.

15 November, 2005 14:08  
Anonymous jambanwitness said...

Pakcik, budak2 sekarang ni belajar tinggi2 tak semestinya ada otak yg pandai. Tak ada bezanya kalau ada bouncer2 yg berpelajaran tinggi. Tugas bouncer ialah hentam korang kalao korang hentam dlm jamban!

15 November, 2005 14:08  
Anonymous pak hj samuri said...

我会讲话语

买我的SATE吧!

15 November, 2005 14:20  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i don't know whether you know already, but ZOUK owners are from SINGAPORE. you should forward this to ZOUK Malaysia and Singapore. It is totally deplorable that the ZOUK management is behaving like common louts and have no civic responsibility of addressing it professionally. i, for one, will not ever patronise ZOUK any longer.

15 November, 2005 15:40  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why does zouk wanna blame zouk if you dunno if the thing is real or not? right back at ya.

if zouk gonna entertain all the blogs everytime, wow they must be very busy and need to hire one guy specially to handle blog cases.

15 November, 2005 16:55  
Blogger adelyn loh said...

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15 November, 2005 21:05  
Anonymous nothing but the truth said...

If what you are saying is real, im truly sympathized with u n James and may God bless you both till d end. I believe in justice and the truth will somehow finds its way. u dont need kazillions of debates on who's right and wrong but only the truth will follow you to your grave. Anger and hatred are viruses of evil that will continously manipulate once it have been activated.Personally, i cant blame zouk if troubles and complication arises from there.


May God bless nothing but the truth. Peace and take care.

15 November, 2005 21:07  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why she delete the comment on 21:05? why? why??

16 November, 2005 00:16  
Anonymous kikilala said...

maybe it was a comment by a witness who actually witnessed the incident.....and is refuting her side of the story.....

talk about transparency....

16 November, 2005 01:00  
Anonymous Pak Hj Samuri said...

can't you think positive, it's possibly some lame ass spammer posting some illiterate comments and foul language. ppl like kikilala have shallow personality and like to find fault with others

16 November, 2005 01:15  
Anonymous Christoper Wais said...

the way is see this debate over who's right and wrong is that there is no end to it. Unless one party has solid evidence of the incident, then that will raise an eyebrow. Have you guys watch the movie, The exorcism of Emily Rose?...anyone in doubt with the movie?. my point is, some people believe the story and some people do not. wats the point of those jury making a decision saying the priest is guilty and then sympathetically asked the judge to free the man.??? everything has its own explanation, i am sure both parties in Ju-lee's case have different explanation. they both have to protect themself. we won't believe it until we see it. get the point!...i know there are many ppl here critisizing Ju-lee's stories, they are all just believing wat they read. no point writing back and forth just for the argument. ju lee started this blog to let ppl know her story, and she will have to accept the fact that there many kind of ppl in the public unless she has specifically said this blog is for her supporters only. we won't know the truth of ju-lee's story cause there is no fact? or evidence?....we cannot think she is not wrong, maybe she is not lying...so no judgement...it is also undeniable that ju-lee is hiding something...until now there is no evidence to support. so we'll leave it to the rightful authorities to settle her case ....and to those affected by rude comments in this blog, pls cool down its only our opinion. nothing more than that. you can have your say at this why not us. its like you supporting her and all cause you believe in her side of the story and to those that do not believe in her we will feel agitated you know...so its vice-versa....and pls let us know if you win your case, we'll be happy for you, and to everyone reading this, Zouk is not a bad place to go just be wise when you go to these kind of places...bouners everywhere is rude...nothing can change that...my own experience tells me this, i was in New York and we went to a club for drinks during christmas, we were drinking quite a bit and they stoped us from drinking half way saying we're making a scene. wat we all really did was having shots after shots non-stop and they think we were drunk ....well we're not..they kick us out of the club and we left out jackets in theclub and all we wanted is to go in and get the jackets, they didn't allow that, it was freaking winter at that time...so all i could say all bouncers are the same and all clubs too....just becareful where you heading and be WISE....specially to those with illnesses, why go to the bomb when you yourself is already a time-bomb...cheers people, party on....anyone going to Zouk out in Singapore on dec 10??

16 November, 2005 03:00  
Anonymous pj said...

you also like to find fault with others lah... english speaking pk hj samuri!

Pakcik samuri, bukan cakap pasal awak. Saya tahu pk hj samuri yg bertutur bahasa inggeris adalah seorang penyamar.

16 November, 2005 03:36  
Anonymous kikilala said...

viva la zouk! yeah pak samuri, i'm kikilala and i'm shallow and like to find fault with others. I can't think positively cos I think this is an evil world we live in where bouncers are bad bad bad. Pessimism is what I dwell in. Deal with it!

16 November, 2005 03:49  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

yeah that deleted comment consisted of !@#$!@#$!@#%!@#$!@#*@!#$!@!*&!#$^!#$%@$*@$%^@%!@#$!@#$

goodness gracious...that was real bad language and so it wasn't suitable for civilised pple like us. :)

16 November, 2005 03:55  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wei i dun understand Malay leh. what are you saying to Pak Samuri? :P

16 November, 2005 03:57  
Anonymous Jacobson said...

Thanks for taking the trouble to warn us, Ju Lee. We will forever be indebted to you.

16 November, 2005 04:02  
Anonymous AZN said...

after reading christopher wai's comment, I remembered this one time in Perth when I got so pissed in a nightclub and yakked all over the floor that the bouncers threw me out. after that, I went to another club and slept. When I woke up an hour later and was more sober, I went back to the club that I was thrown out of and actually got back in. Unfortunately, my 'art piece' had been cleaned up already. :(

The nightclub was called CHURCH!!! And it was the place to go to watch asians fight every weekend! Got Rice?

16 November, 2005 04:14  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm just waiting when Ju Lee would say to us "you got punk'd!"

16 November, 2005 11:37  
Anonymous dammie said...

"My brother has participated for several years in the Special Olympics so the statement seems rather cruel. I don't take it personally but I do take it that the phrase was done in poor referential taste."

lol sorry mate...true.
its akin to racist jokes...if you take it in stride even the alleged race will find it hilarious.

its funny how some of you are sure that JL is making all of this up etc etc.
After going through all of this...do you think it makes a difference? The issue (i assume it is unless you are still so grounded) is about the use of violence. If it really happened to JL then that's the reason we sympathize and get all worked up for her.
If she "punk'd" (regards to someone) us, I wouldn't really care because the issue of whether its real seems less significant now.

16 November, 2005 13:51  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

satmos said...
Human Rights said...
1. There is nothing except in a case of self-defense that allows a person to cause physical hurt to another individual.

---> WHATS MAKES U SO SURE THAT THE BOUNCERS DIDNT ACT IN SELF DEFENCE? SHE DID ADMIT THAT HER BF LANDED THE 1ST KICK AT THE BOUNCERS. AND ALSO , SHE ADMITTED THT SHE HAD BLOWN THINGS OUT OF PROPORTION TO THE PRESS.


satmos... either u're a fucking fool or a dumb fuck...eitherway...4 againts a lady a bf...whether he kicked or landed the 1st punch...all the bouncer can do is to restraint him and get him out of the club. That's IT!...

you coming up with all the other stories of bouncers getting hurled with bottles etc....asswipe...that's a gang fight ...you have a group of more than 6 people ..that's a gang....againts a group of bouncers...now we have a case here that's about a lady and a guy....KNOW THE DIFFERENCE BEFORE YOU FREAKING OPEN YOUR RETARDED BRAIN WAVES TO DELIVER THAT STUPID CRAP.

UNBELIVEABLE TO HAVE PEOPLE LIKE SATMOS...STILL THAT STUPID AND SUBJECTIVE. A PARROT PARIAH TO ME.

you must be one of those fags, that think if he starts first, then i have the right to roll the fellow till death?

16 November, 2005 17:51  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i totally agree with you anonymous above.

satmos...go fed on your mom's tit. u might be able to capture a better state of mind.

16 November, 2005 17:52  
Anonymous satmos said...

anonymous said-

"satmos... either u're a fucking fool or a dumb fuck...eitherway...4 againts a lady a bf...whether he kicked or landed the 1st punch...all the bouncer can do is to restraint him and get him out of the club. That's IT!..."


----> Hey prick, ur so sure that they really got bitten up is it? hmm? what made u so sure? cos she posted it up in the blog so it must be true is it? fuckin prick..
u an eye witness? or ur so weak tht u will believe everything a cunt tells u ?

talk facts man prick.. u so sure it was 4 vs 1? fuckin sure? u were there is it? u sound so fuckin convinced it was 4 vs 1 and the abuse did take place.

how come the press werent convinced? what?? conspiracy theory ah? hey retard! just becos a cunt says it happens doesnt mean its true ok?
ur the stupid fuckin prick for believing a story without seeing evidence. even anwar ibrahim could use pics to bring down the cop tht hit him.. but this cunt doent even have a single evidence except for a fuckin blog which pricks like u fall for..

wake up to the real world la fucker. dumb fuck

16 November, 2005 18:04  
Anonymous satmos the stupid dumb fuck said...

satmos..
as if YOU are so sure the incident didnt happen.. yea, talk facts.. right.. you are the one sounding so fucking convinced that the incident didnt happen. YOU are the one that needs to wake up. idiot.

16 November, 2005 19:57  
Anonymous r u dumb said...

what da fuck wit this bitch's supporters?.. y da hell u dumb fucks all believe her? hoping 2 hav sex with her in da toilet n not get caught is it?

da satmos guy put it really clear.. i really couldn't believe u dumb fucks willin 2 go against so many facts 2 believe sumthin..

i dun giv a fuck if da bouncers whacked her or her bf.. cause she is fuckin liein.. if the bouncers get punished... then she shuld get punished too for creating so much of fuckin crap..

y da fuck is it so hard 2 believe sumthin dat is more logical than sum crappy sad novel she is writing?

fuck the fuck is so wrong wit all of ur bladi brains... in the name of saints u all juz believe a bitch barking... y?

then askin if dun like dun comment... u think this is ur fuckin father's internet is it? post blog n let ppl comment ady.. stil wanna restrict ar.. fuck off ar.. wan ppl 2 comment then accept both side... ur fuckin supporters n dumb fucks like me!..

fuckin bitch

16 November, 2005 23:06  
Anonymous r u dumb said...

hey bitch... n it's supporters... show me da bladi prove.. n i wil blieve... dun fuckin be a smart ass an ask me if i saw me being born frm my mother or not n y i believe so n on n on..

show the fuckin proof.. else dumb fucks like me can also talk as much as u... there is no fuckin reason to believe u more than me..

god damn it.. u r so bitchy.. n some of ur supporters n so dumb n bitchy..

i dun believe cause i din c prove... can any fuckers tell me y they believe? y? wut u got so far? other than 1 bitch talkin? (dun talk bullshit.. if got prove... show it 2 me)

16 November, 2005 23:14  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

r u dumb really said it all. I couldn't have put it any better. hahaha

17 November, 2005 00:58  
Anonymous Pak Hj Samuri said...

come on, we're here to solve a problem and not to create another one.

17 November, 2005 08:28  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OMG...You got friends who are bouncers? I DONT BELIEVE YOU!!! After all that you said and how you've twisted your story to get sympathy from everyone. My fiancee has this this and this. Was that all or just some of the stuff that he has?

Hell, Chinese woman forced to strip in police station shows her picture, you both cant...coz...coz...we will look like criminals. You are damn funny, maybe you dont want to coz you really are THE criminal.

Eh, that night, wasnt the club packed to the max? No one in the toilet ar? If got also, they didnt help? Meaning to say, you are implying that Malaysians are arseholes who dont bother about other people? I think so.

Look, because you were caught making out in the club, was asked to leave and then being stupid - the both of you probably verbally abused them, thinking since your fiancee is all high and mighty and the bouncers are low level scums, you have the right to do it. Fark that. What else, then they probably told you to shush, you couldnt take it, decided to kick them, oh sorry, in that poor poor farked up state that your fiancee was in, used all his might to try and kick them (correct?), then the bouncers probably had thought enough is enough, we treated you nicely but spg and sickboy (thats what i'll call your fiancee from now on...Sickboy) wanna find trouble, so trouble comes to you. IDJIT!

I think the bouncers were acting in self defence. Hell, you cant even show ANY proof. How many people would have seen what happen? If YOU ARE SO RIGHT, why doesnt the hundreds of people come to your defence? Yes, go now, go forth and get some people to lie for you and say "Yes my friends were abused as kids, erm sorry, I mean by bouncers" Please go and do it.

All you know how to do is bitch. Now you'd say, All the bruises are gone, show also for what? Come on, you can write into MM again "The further adventures of Sickboy". In this issue, Sickboy in a fit, yes another one, TYPES and SENDS SMSes!!!!.

Shit, i got friends who get fits and what nots, they cant type smses when they get it. Sickboy is special aint he? All that education has given him that ability to send smses while having fits and also the ability to send smses before he lands into shiat. Can i hire him as my stockbroker? He seems to have the powers of telling the future.

18 November, 2005 12:14  

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